Abolish the Senate

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Senators are not elected and serve until retirement, yet they can defeat bills that the people have approved in the House of Commons. This is a terrible, undemocratic way of governance and must be abolished.

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Soumis par David Mallet le ven 28/05/2021 - 13:38

They are given their position by both the Prime Minister and Governor General, HOWEVER, none of these people are chosen BY the people nor is OWR input taken into consideration. Either abolish the whole group OR reform the entire system so that ALL seats are filled with democratically elected officials (With and age cap & Term Limits).

Soumis par Norman garreau le Jeu 27/05/2021 - 17:18

I believe that it’s time to clean house get rid of the carpet baggers of senators ,they are unaccountable to the people of Canada . We need less government not more

Soumis par Darcy Earle le Jeu 27/05/2021 - 07:22

I believe there cannot be a democracy with senators that were elected by one party. That is an unfair advantage over all the other parties, and the people that voted for them.

Soumis par Samuel Perkins le mer 26/05/2021 - 17:27

Senators make $174,000 annually, elected MPs make $185,800. When Mike Duffy retires he'll get a $47,000 pension despite never being elected.
With 105 seats in the red chamber at $174,000 each, that's $18,270,000 being wasted every year. That isn't even including bonuses for being a party leader.
$18 million could be spent far more productively.

Soumis par Andrew le ven 07/05/2021 - 01:38

The senate is a terrible waste of our tax money for unelected officials to slow down the process that our elected officials have made. It’s archaic and needs to end today.

Soumis par Craig Wellblack le mer 05/05/2021 - 15:50

We NEED to abolish the Senate immediately! They provide nothing but a simple “sober second thought” as put by our first Prime Minister John A Mconald. Another problem with the Senate is Patronage. Throughout the years the people have felt that the patronage currently going on has made the Senate useless. Just by simply staying loyal to a party or a person, you are rewarded with a high power and high paying job.
Since each Senate gets paid upwards of $160k a year while having around 91 seats reserved for senators means we are paying around $15m a year plus the extra $105dsm paid for it to operate the work they ares paid for is not worthy of that sort of pay, so whilst The Speaker of the Senate alone makes around 68.8 thousand a year just to tell people that they are aloud to talk or when to tell them to shut up, the average Canadian is struggling to make ends meet.
The Senate isn't very important, nor do we need it. The House of Commons does pretty much the same as the Senate, plus more.We already have people like Mayors and Premiers representing and overseeing our provinces and communities. Canada currently has 91 Senators, so that's 15 million dollars per year going towards the senators assuming they all make base salary. Since the senate was founded in 1867, we have spent approximately 2.31 billion dollars purely on their salaries up until now. This is a lot of money that could be spent towards more useful projects/issues, like our national debt or starving out Quebec.
If we keep the senate we are throwing money away that we could put into more useful stuff such as schools and health care or maybe even raise the minimum wage.

Soumis par Jeff Haack le lun 12/04/2021 - 15:52

Sorry Senators, your reign of undemocratic terror is over. Unelected, unrepresentative, unrelating meddling in Canadian politics. Abolish the Senate.

Soumis par Samuel Egan le mar 23/02/2021 - 22:35

Senators are a waste of Canadian $$$. They serve no functional purpose, and even if they were to serve their duties faithfully, they would be doing so undemocratically.

Soumis par Reardon le mar 23/02/2021 - 18:01

Canada isn't a democracy but removing the unelected unaccountable senate would help us get there and the next step after that is to change our electoral system we need to get rid of FPTP and replace it with Proportional representation + remove the queen as head of state

Soumis par Eugene Morck le mar 16/02/2021 - 18:29

The fact that Senators aren't elected is actually good, it means they should be chosen based on their merit, abilities and judgment - unlike elected politicians who will get elected solely on their ability to convince people, often with empty promises. What we need is a solid Senate, appointed by a non-partisan board, to counterbalance the vacuity of most elected MPs.

Soumis par Martin Lessard le mar 16/02/2021 - 00:51

Shut it down. The House can take care of it and we can do much more important things with the money saved. Too much damn politicians.

Soumis par Anonyme le mer 03/02/2021 - 19:44

For an avg salary of over $150K/ yr and government pension, I fail to see the relevance with the work amount of work they perform and their compensation on top of being appointed, so basically no accountability

Soumis par Ross Dingwall le ven 22/01/2021 - 18:33

Because Senators are not elected but appointed , the Senate has become nothing more than a way to favour Party hacks. They enjoy all forms of perks which the ordinary Canadian citizen does not. It is absolutely wrong for an appointed body to have any influence on how our country is governed.

Soumis par Sam Margison le sam 09/01/2021 - 08:56

Counter productive and blaintly terrible group of people to be giving orders they can't even follow themselves. What a joke. It's time for some make real change. It's time to get red of the Senate.

Soumis par Ian le mer 30/12/2020 - 17:36

The Senate in Canada has never worked properly these are political hand-outs to those who have done favours for the standing Federal Government. The salaries and costs to run the senate are outrageous and the cost continues to rise under the Trudeau government from 90M in his first term to 114 M now. It is time to abolish the Senate and be more fiscally responsible to Canadian taxpayers money.

Soumis par Randy Cleroux le ven 11/12/2020 - 02:10

I do not understand why we need the Senate. Procedure in the house of commons to pass a bill requires three readings. In between, there are committees, discussions and debates. If after all this, the elected members of the house of commons have still not got it right, then what are we paying them for. Its time to abolish the Senate, this archaic broken institution needs to go. I would also suggest that the entire budget for the Senate, once its gone, go to Health Care costs. This would be a better use of funds.

Soumis par eddie byrne le ven 27/11/2020 - 01:40

It is disgusting that we are still paying people hundreds of thousands of dollars to, at best do nothing at all, and at worse stall or block legislation of which is the will of the people.

Soumis par Anonyme le ven 20/11/2020 - 20:26

Having an unelected chamber is dangerous for democracy, especially when that chamber has the ability to veto bills. The practice of vetoing bills is currently non-existent in the Senate, but that could very change for all we know. Two equally powerful chambers existing alongside one another has caused deadlocks in many countries. Better abolish now or risk having a non functioning government in the future.

Soumis par Anonyme le Jeu 05/11/2020 - 20:17

Being as the provincial governments do not have an upper house and govern adequately and the vast majority of Canadians really only care about the House of Commons, the existence of an upper in Canada is utterly redundant

Soumis par Josie Fogal le mer 04/11/2020 - 14:32

Not sure that it should be abolished outright, but there must be a mechanism for accountability. For example, Lynn Beyak, needs to be removed from the senate completely. She's an embarrassment, but Canadians have no way of effecting her removal.

Soumis par Anonyme le dim 01/11/2020 - 00:29

Abolish this undemocratic waste of space and government dollars. The senate serves no purpose in our modern parliamentary government and the senators do not answer to the will of the people. The senate serves to function for itself and its cronies abolish this bloat of our legislative system.

Soumis par Nicki le ven 30/10/2020 - 19:54

It's 2020. We cannot call ourselves a democracy when senators who have power over law are not appointed democratically. As a result we are paying $157,000 dollars of taxpayer money a year to someone who is a residential school denier and made an illegal campaign donation to Trump. Canada needs to get up with the times and abolish the senate.

Soumis par William rempel le lun 05/10/2020 - 02:28

yes we should abolish the squabbling over paid senate committee altogether. it's a waste of time and money. money that can be better used elsewhere.

Soumis par Josh Pozzolo le mer 09/09/2020 - 20:19

The senate is supposed to be a house of somber second thought, and the absence of the need to campaign potentially allows the members to focus on justice and what's best for Canada, and the world. This is a good idea. What isn't a good idea is for partisanship to enter the senate, and all senators should take a vow to eschew political membership as long as they serve. The senate should NOT be partisan and it should function without concern for local constituents. The senate could become a vibrant source of ideas and dialogue, but much needs to change for that to occur.

Soumis par Joseph le sam 27/06/2020 - 01:11

Abolish the useless tax payers waste of money, I especially know of tax evading senators, get rid of all of them.

Soumis par Abolish ignorance le mer 08/07/2020 - 00:03

The power bestowed to Senators serves to preserve Canadian values in the long-run. Also, remember that the then-elected government elected them, and note, that most of these Senators are currently independent parties. Moreover, there is absolutely nothing you can do about since changes to the Senate have been restricted by the Supreme Court in 2013, thus requiring amendments to the Canadian constitution. Therefore, unless you get most provinces' consent, there will be no abolishment for you.

We are lucky to have a very competent bureaucracy with many experts on a wide array of fields comparable to other G7 countries. Experts such as lawyers, economists, strategists, political scientists know how to spend your tax dollars better than you can articulate.

So, if you want to spend your tax dollars your way, I challenge you to save it all together instead and move to countries with no income tax such as Kuwait, Bermuda, Cayman Islands, and Brunei.

Soumis par Marvin Pomarenski le Jeu 16/04/2020 - 23:15

Save Canadian taxpayers millions..
Do not see they do much ever and their jobs can be done by others. We don't hear from them. Even with this covid 19 no word from them. And being old does not make you wise. I think Canadian tax payers should have a referendum on this issue. Only time you hear about Senators is when they do something
un lawful or bad misusing their expense accounts or not living where they claim.

Soumis par Laurey Stolk le mar 07/01/2020 - 15:29

Please abolish the senate - they serve no purpose in our current society- the “sober second thought” days are long behind these people, who collect large salaries and perks without providing any benefit to Canada

Soumis par Bernard Aybout le mar 07/01/2020 - 05:59

Senators are not elected and serve until retirement, yet they can defeat bills that the people have approved in the House of Commons. This is a terrible, undemocratic way of governance and must be abolished.

Soumis par Cindy le mer 27/11/2019 - 23:30

My tax dollars can not be continued to support Senate and Senators such like Lynn Beyek. I find it disgraceful that a woman with such vile views remains in senate on my dime. If she represents what senate is..please abolish this with these highly paid and unelected folk.
Thank you

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